Airbnb platform rating system explanation. What do you think?

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Sandra856
Level 10
Copenhagen, Denmark

Airbnb platform rating system explanation. What do you think?

Hi 🙂

I'm trying to make a new explanation pamphlet for my guests to read. 

How do you understand these explanations below - do they make sense?

I have written both myself and want to use pieces of that to the new "pamphlet". 

I hope it might help guests to understand internet rating platforms better and how they work - those with 5 star ratings are on the top when people search and that it is basically what a 5 star rating does - keeps the host on top of the search field. Screenshot_20191122_232748.jpgScreenshot_20191123_024056.jpg

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Trevor243
Level 10
England, United Kingdom

So far, I haven't actively encouraged guests to post reviews - partly because I've been extremely busy and partly because I haven't decided on wording, guidance on reviews etc. If I get it wrong, it could create more negative review scores (I see anything less than 5* as negative, although I accept that others may see things differently).

 

I'm thinking about a "Please Review Us" page in our guest information packs. I will definitely start it with "If you enjoyed your stay ..." - in theory, if people didn't enjoy their stay, they won't bother posting a review. Yes, I know it won't stop all negative reviews, but ....

 

I'm thinking about guidance on reviews being something like this:

5* = the property was as described, with the facilities and amenities listed and in the location marked in the listing

4* = you were disappointed

3* = you want us to burn in hell

Ok, so maybe that guidance needs a little bit of work!

 

Something I already do (in our guest information packs) is ask guests to report any problems, anything not working *immediately* so that we can fix it *immediately* - we say that it isn't helpful to them, to us or to the next guests if the first we know is when the next guest reports it or we find out about it 2 weeks later in a review. We know this works fairly well - most guests do report any problems immediately. Most of the time we can fix problems / replace things very quickly, often within the hour.

 

Of course, there are always going to be those guests that say nothing at the time but post it in a review 2 weeks later .... we can't win every time, but we do our best!

 

 

 

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@Sandra856 

 

Who cares what different guests want? airbnb wants to make money.

 

The listings with the highest clickrates are the ones that generate revenue.

 

@Ute42 If they know what a guest would most likely choose why not make sure that those listings show up first. I can't imagine Airbnb's system to be as simple as you think. 

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Good night.

 

Good night @Ute42 🙂 

Ute42
Level 10
Germany

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@Sandra856 

 

"Lots and lots and lots of factors are build into internet platforms"

 

Yes, airbnb is telling us that more than 100 criteria are determening the position in search results. Do You really believe that? Of course it's good for airbnb is we all believe it because we then try hard. But unfortenately, it's not the case.

 

Sandra, what sense does it make for airbnb to put a Superhost Listing with an average rating of 5* but only 20 clicks last month on top of search results? That makes no sense at all, bc noone is interested to book that place.

 

But if there is a non-Superhost listing, 3.5* rating and 800 clicks last month, sooner or later someone will book the place. And that's when airbnb makes money.

 

 

@Ute42 The system would of course ALSO look at the clicks - The system does include ALL factors. 

@Sandra856  I'm sorry but this is a horrible idea. Partly because your argument is built on a lie, as others have illustrated,. But also because it's in very poor taste.

 

If I found a pamphlet like this as a guest, I'd be appalled. I don't know if I'd be able to restrain myself from mentioning in my review that guests were being badgered with bad information into giving 5-star reviews, and it might even inspire me to leave a lower rating.  It makes you come across as condescending and presumptuous, and it could easily result in guests being more critical than they otherwise would have been. 

 

Your listing obviously isn't suffering from the non-5-star ratings it's received, so why hassle your guests with this garbage?

 

@Anonymous I would never ever leave a phamplet like this ever. I'm sorry if I have made an impression that I would do so. You are saying that airbnb is not just a ranking system build on algoritms? 

@Sandra856  I really don't even know what you mean by "ranking system," but there is no way you can prove that the star rating left by a guest will influence how a listing appears in a search. 

 

 

@Anonymous Of course I cannot prove anything but one might assume that listings getting positive feedback is pushed up so more guests will see those listings. 

When airbnb made the platform they had to build it on something - algoritms. Meaning some factors will have positive effect on a listing and other factors negative effect. 

 

 

 

@Sandra856  You don't know any more about the algorithm than your guests do, so it would look pretty foolish to try to "educate" them about it.

 

 

@Anonymous I'm also fully aware of that. But I at least know that the system is build of algoritms and whatever you put into the system will have an effect on my listing.

I know that to many less than 5 star ratings will mean something. 

 

 

 

@Anonymous @@This guy wrote an article about it a couple of years ago. I didn't fully understood or thought about what he was talking about when he mentioned "ranking, search placement" 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/sethporges/2016/06/29/the-one-issue-with-airbnb-reviews-that-causes-hosts-to-burnout/amp/

Sarah977
Level 10
Sayulita, Mexico

@Ute42  Seems like you've done your research and I believe you. Because fiddling around with my listing, blocking and unblocking dates, which hosts have said will up your search ranking doesn't make a bit of difference for my listing, nor does my 100% 5 star rating. My ranking seems to only go up when I get bookings. But it's a stupid vicious circle- if my search ranking is low, many guests never find it, so of course it won't get booked. Duh. 

Airbnb should randomly change listing order daily to give everyone a fair shot- I'm sure they'd see a lot of the less-booked listings being booked more if they didn't bury them on the last page of 20.

Dimitar27
Level 10
Sofia, Bulgaria

The search system works completely different. The overall rating is just a part of it, but there are numerous factors included.

The picture in my area:

1.   5.0 (130) reviews

2.  4,65 (17 reviews) (not a Superhost)

3.  4,94 (216 reviews)

4.  4,79 (81 reviews)

5.  4,50 (123 reviews) (not a Superhost)

6.  4,82 (359 reviews)

7.  5,0 (66 reviews)

8.  4,92 (110 reviews)

9.  4,79 (192 reviews)

10.  No rating (2 reveiws) (not a Superhost)

11. 5,0 (3 reviews) (not a Superhost)

12. 5,0 (4 reviews) (not a Superhost)

13. 4,50 (2 reviews)

14. 4,91 (34 reviews)

15. This is me -4,95 (39 reviews)

16. 4,70 (101 reviews)

17. 4,92 (100 reviews)

 

As you see...it can't be based just on the overall rating.