Guests getting around non-refundable windows by altering reservations to dates outside the window and canceling

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Jason1622
Level 2
Durham, NC

Guests getting around non-refundable windows by altering reservations to dates outside the window and canceling

  1. Guest wants to cancel, but they can't because it's too late
  2. Sends request to modify the reservation to beyond 24 hours (flexible)
  3. Waits a few days and cancels it.

 

This should not be able to happen. Even if the guest modifies the booking and the host accepts, it should be flagged as non-refundable because it was already in that state.

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Gillian166
Level 10
Hay Valley, Australia

@Jason1622  this is a well-known loophole, and is even taught on some travel blogs. And it's been discussed to death. But how can you resolve it? If a guest moves their booking at the last minute, perhaps they should be switched to a "no refund" policy after that. That's one solution. 

This year i've have 6 such instances, 2 people did the move and cancel trick, 3 changed the dates and did turn up, and one has moved her reservation to December, so we'll see what happens. Out of 200+ reservations it's not a huge problem. 

You can either harden up and just refuse to do any refunds, or be kind and refund someone who is in a bad situation (or be duped by an unorganised, irrational wretch who you def don't want on your property anyway - be sure to block them!). 

Ooh, and another thing that would be good is if they have a counter on their profile that shows how many times they've cancelled a reservation. 

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Sudsrung0
Level 10
Rawai, Thailand

@Jason1622 

 

Some host know how to work the system to their advantage, 

Was that guest another host?

One thing I like about BDC you are not getting a refund, you can set to "None Refundable" 

Over the years we have only ever had a couple of cancellations so no big deal for me, I do have it set to Strict, 

Helen744
Level 10
Victoria, Australia

@Jason 1622 Yes it is an anomaly . It is as well to issue this warning Jason . H

Jason1622
Level 2
Durham, NC

All mine are set to flexible with non refundable option. Not sure if that’s a double edged sword or not.

Gillian166
Level 10
Hay Valley, Australia

@Jason1622  this is a well-known loophole, and is even taught on some travel blogs. And it's been discussed to death. But how can you resolve it? If a guest moves their booking at the last minute, perhaps they should be switched to a "no refund" policy after that. That's one solution. 

This year i've have 6 such instances, 2 people did the move and cancel trick, 3 changed the dates and did turn up, and one has moved her reservation to December, so we'll see what happens. Out of 200+ reservations it's not a huge problem. 

You can either harden up and just refuse to do any refunds, or be kind and refund someone who is in a bad situation (or be duped by an unorganised, irrational wretch who you def don't want on your property anyway - be sure to block them!). 

Ooh, and another thing that would be good is if they have a counter on their profile that shows how many times they've cancelled a reservation. 

@Gillian166 

The cancel-rate would be perfect. I’d rather accept a 4 star guests than people who cancel

Easy to fix. Once the booking has reached non refundable it’s flagged as such in the system. That’s the point of my post, I’m hoping Airbnb receives this feedback.

Michael5047
Level 6
West Palm Beach, FL

@Jason1622 

 

I tell them that unfortunately i can't modify their dates and ask them to cancel. I offer them a full refund if i can book those dates they cancelled. They are usually fine with that idea.

Mike from West Palm