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Hi everyone,
This is my first post here, and I’m hoping to get some insight. I’ve spent over 7 years living and traveling across more than a dozen countries on 4 continents. Most of this was before Airbnb became widespread, so I stayed in hostels, hotels, and even rented apartments in London, Edinburgh, Brisbane, Auckland, and Vancouver. Recently, my entire family—five grown adults—visited Paris and stayed in a beautiful apartment in the Latin Quarter. My parents are in their 70s, so I specifically chose a Superhost listing to ensure a smooth experience. The trip was wonderful, especially for them, and I left a very positive review on Airbnb.
However, after we returned home, the host sent me a photo of his coffee table in pieces on the floor. He said his housekeeper "found the table like this." This surprised me, as that is absolutely not accurate. The housekeeper arrived around 8:15am just before we left and came into the room where the table was to have a conversation with me. The table was intact at that time. I actually found a photo taken that last morning (at 8:04am) with metadata confirming the time. The table is visible in the lower right corner—perfectly intact. We had briefly moved it for the photo and returned it to its original place. At that time, I noticed it was quite fragile—held together by a single, thin strap. The host claims the table is an antique and that the strap holds it together well, but from our experience, it was quite wobbly. I believe the table likely collapsed later, possibly when the housekeeper moved it while cleaning. The host says he trusts her completely, so I’m not sure what else I can say to prove that we are not responsible for the damage. He has said he intends to file a claim with Airbnb, and I’m really unsure how to proceed.
Given this was my first Airbnb stay, and the host's 'Superhost,' status, I now feel quite vulnerable. More than anything, I’m upset that any negativity has followed what was otherwise an incredible trip. We were very respectful of the apartment, its furnishings, and the house rules. The listing stated the apartment had internet, a washing machine, three bedrooms, a sofa bed, and space for six guests. The host’s rules required that we wear socks between 10pm–7am, which we actually did anytime we were in the apartment. Unfortunately, our whole family came down with pneumonia about halfway through the trip. Thus, packing had to be done slowly over the course of our final days. We had an early flight out of CDG, so on our last morning, we had to move around the apartment quietly from about 5am. We were very careful, but a neighbor knocked on the door shortly before we left to complain about the "floor creaking." We apologized in both French and English, though I’m not sure he understood our situation (that we'd been so sick,) or that we had actually followed the rules.
Another issue came up with the washing machine—it locked shut and trapped our clothes when we used it. The host sent his brother-in-law to fix it. He created a workaround to open and close the door and said a rubber seal needed replacing. After that, we used a local laundromat instead, in order to make sure we didn't damage the washer or lose any more clothes. Despite being as sick as we were, we cleaned the entire apartment thoroughly, washed all dishes, and emptied the trash multiple times. We didn’t launder the provided linens or towels ourselves, as the guidelines said they would be handled by a professional cleaning crew. However, the host later said the housekeeper struggled with the volume of laundry. Had we known this would be a problem, we would have gladly used the laundromat to wash them. With five adults showering daily—and using towels to clean the apartment—there were naturally quite a few.
My parents are in their final years and this trip was extremely important for them. Pneumonia for people in their 70s is exceptionally dangerous and finding an MD in France, especially for people their age, became very complicated. Therefore they both had to wait and go directly to the ER after we returned. Nevertheless, it's both heartbreaking and confusing to know that we're being blamed for damaging the furniture, and causing issues with things we were told wouldn't be problematic. Again, our family took great care during our stay, and I’m hoping for advice on how to navigate this situation with the damage claim.
Thanks so much in advance.
Just to clarify....The host is seeking reimbursement for the broken coffee table only? If so, did you contact Airbnb and explain you didn't break it and offer your dated photo as proof? What did Airbnb say? If you refuse to pay for the table Airbnb should reimburse the Host under Aircover if they agree with the Host.
I would post a public reply to the Host's review with your side of the story. Be factual and non emotional. If you feel your review no longer reflects your experience, you can contact Airbnb and have your review removed.
Hi Joan,
He has since canceled his request for reimbursement. I sent him a photo of the table completely intact that had metadata indicating it was taken just minutes before the housekeeper came on our last day. The housekeeper was actually the same person who came when the washing machine broke. At that time, all five people were present and can all refute the claim he mentions in the review (that the table was on the floor.) But in his review he mentions several things that he never even brought up with me. I wrote to him that had we known the housekeeper would have trouble with the laundry, we would have happily taken our linens and towels to the laundromat. His specific instructions were that the 'towels and linens would be professionally cleaned after guest departure.' I only found out today that my mom paid a $400 'cleaning deposit,' none of which he returned. I suspect that the table broke when the housekeeper moved it to clean the living room. If that was the case, it makes sense that she would say it was broken when she was there earlier for the washer. I spent hours communicating with him and sending multiple photos with proven metadata information to show that the apartment was extremely clean with nothing broken. Ultimately he said he'd be withdrawing his claim. After all that, I read his review, and my heart just sank. His monetary claim wasn't even my most immediate concern. Had my family been responsible for the table's damage, we would have immediately reported it to him and offered to pay for its repair. My main concern was the fact that we were being accused of things we didn't do *and* for causing problems with issues we were told we didn't need to attend. The trip was an incredible opportunity for my elderly parents, but they have both had severe pneumonia since returning and I'm their sole caretaker. I don't know how Pierre's single - and very negative - review will impact my future here. My communiques with Pierre extend to nearly 12 pages total, if the entire thread is copied. I have no idea how to represent everything we went through in those messages. I do intend to respond, but it will need to be once my family is well. Thanks again for your reply.
Hello @Nicolina10
I'm so sorry to hear what happened during your stay in Paris and hope that your parents are on the mend?
If Pierre has withdrawn his request for the damaged table I would also ask Airbnb to withdraw his comment as it is not valid and harmful. Why a host would leave such a fragile antique in an Airbnb is puzzling?
I fear you may be right, future hosts are going to think twice before accepting a reservation from you as a result of this comment. If the host didn't want to have extra towels to wash, then he shouldn't have left them out for you to use! The cleaning fee should cover this. You don't mention how long you stayed? Did the host leave extra towels as your stay was over a week maybe?
You are allowed to reply to Pierre's comment and to give your version that will be visible under your profil.
Good luck and keep in touch to let us know what you decide,
All the best
Joëlle
Hi Joelle,
I'd like to ask Air BnB to step in in relation to his comment. Many of the things he mentions he didn't even bring up with me. His Guidelines specifically state that a professional cleaner, or cleaning crew would be coming in after we departed. But my family spent the entire last day doing the dishes, cleaning the rooms; we even cleaned the toilets. I suppose had we not we would have used less of the linens and towels that upset the housekeeper. But given we were told that the apartment laundry would be taken care of after we left, we removed the sheets from the beds and left them with the towels we used. Maybe seeing this level of laundry all in one place upset the housekeeper? But my family was there when she arrived and she had no comments about the laundry (or table,) at that time. My entire family can refute the claim that the coffee table was in pieces when she came with her husband to fix the washer. In his review, he almost makes it sound as though we were responsible for the washer breaking, when we clearly were not. I also have photos of the apartment taken on the last few days of the stay and they disprove his claim that we left it in the terrible state Pierre claims we did. I plan to reply to his comment, but I'd also like to ask Air BnB to remove it. I'm unsure how to go about the latter, but I appreciate your response and you taking the time to share your suggestions. Thanks so much ~ Nicolina
Hello again @Nicolina10
At the bottom of this link you'll find how to contact Airbnb if you want to remove your review and ask for the hosts review to be deleted.
https://www.airbnb.co.uk/help/article/3582
Best of luck
Joëlle
Bonjour Joelle,
I attempted to get the reviews removed, even providing Air BnB with the photo of the coffee table fully intact mere minutes before we left, but I was ultimately sent a reply that the review will not be removed. I wasn't given a reason. I was hoping that I could at least edit my reply to Pierre because there is no space between the English and French translation, so if one simply glances at it, the response looks like a long post that could make some people dismiss reading it.
Nevertheless, I appreciate your help. And everyone who replied here. I can only hope that I'll be able to book further spaces and obtain reviews that will reflect who I really am. Thanks Again ~ Nicolina
it could be as well a symptom of the policies airbnb has in place. Hosts can claim insurance only if first contacted the guests for reimbursement. Guests can reject and then the insurance kicks in. There is full cover insurance for every host for any damage but the host needs to go to you first and you are always welcome to 'reject'.
it looks like they want to leverage their insurance to cover for the vintage furniture which can be a lot of $$$.
They need to blame the guest to leverage the insurance, once you rejected they most likely be rewarded with the insurance automatically even.
If there was no requirement to go trough guests to claim the insurance probably they would go directly to AirBnb, AirBnb is nasty smart and is using guests as a firewall/vetting system for the claims from hosts.
I am so sorry for your experience overall. there are still some nice places there, and many nice hosts, I would recommend using this that look more like 'Home' while the owners are away, then you get more human-like and authentic experience.
Hi Radek,
Thanks so much for your reply. I've since discovered the same. Initially I wasn't sure if he was bringing up things he never mentioned to me directly (bathrooms, rooms left uncleaned...) due to being disproven about the damage to the coffee table. I *am* glad he'll be able to file a claim. It was a nice table, but I noticed that early on and as a result, handled it only once and with great care. I agree, many spaces around the world can offer great experiences. Prior to this particular trip, I lived for several years in the majority of cities I visited. I've been very fortunate but one of the values you learn in traveling is to show respect and that's always been my first objective. My parents are 75 and 76 respectively, but even after developing pneumonia, they both did their best to clean the space and leave it as they found it. I haven't shared any of this with them because it would simply be heartbreaking in their current state. I suspect what happened is that the table broke while the housekeeper was cleaning the apartment and to emphasize her accusation that it was our fault, she claimed the entire apartment was left dirty and alleged that it took her longer to tidy up. Pierre himself has not, as far as I know, actually visited the apartment and all his accusations come from third parties. While we were visiting, I got the impression that he lived outside Paris. Nevertheless, I appreciate you reaching out and thank you for your suggestions. ~ Nicolina