I had a guest instant book for a checkin today. We have a st...
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I had a guest instant book for a checkin today. We have a strict 4pm checkin time & they showed up at 2:15 saying they chose ...
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Anyone else getting repeat emails telling them that demand is down significantly in their area, so you better take this opportunity to sign up for Plus, and they will waive the fee for the first year?
Well, we are close to 100% booked with BDC - who seem to have cornered a large chunk of Airbnb’s host and customer base. So I would say demand is well up on last year (due to exchange rate/weak pound).
I truly wish I had some super-cool, super-smart scientific formula for getting around algorithms and analysing and collating the data from my searches Becky, but no such luck! I'm clueless when it comes to techy stuff, so my research methods are rather more old-fashioned - a pen, a notebook, a gallon of diet coke, and night after night of burning the midnight oil! I've also got some great hosting contacts in a lot of different cities around the world too, so I hear from them how they're finding things at their locations, and what I'm seeing, typically fits right in with what they're telling me.
Tbh though, it's probably the best way - maybe the only way - to analyse Airbnb searches. It's difficult to detect any sort of a pattern at first, and so much is hidden/buried, that it typically takes many click-throughs to uncover the information you're searching for. And you really have to know what you're looking at/for, so I'm not sure it would even be possible to come up with any sort of computer program that could make sense of it.
All my searches, I've repeated on other devices, and other people's devices, just to see if there was much of a difference in the results, but the patterns remained pretty much the same throughout - just more advanced in some cities than others. It's been fascinating to observe the progression of the patterns in each city over time though, and how the transition from one stage to the next has accelerated rapidly in recent times, especially in the highest growth markets, like Australia. As you know, I've been watching how Airbnb operates in different markets for years now - little did I realise how handy that little hobby would come in one day 🙂
How are you finding things in Edinburgh, Becky? Hope everything is going well for you, and life is treating you kindly!
This is just a basic overview of a search for London, for 11-13 Jan, 2 guests, no other filters
Of the top 50 listings...
28 were new listings, no reviews.
22 were professional/commercials, some with over 100 listings each.
6 were duplicate listings (so taking 12 spots in the top 50)
One of the pros has 25 listings, zero reviews, but 5 of his listings in top 50.
Another pro, 14 listings, 4 of them in the top 50.
All except one of the pros had ratings of between 3.5 and 4.5 max on their listings, with most hovering around the 4 mark. Lots of dodgy reviews on all of them.
A grand total of 2 Superhosts in the top 30, one regular guy with a fairly average place but dirt cheap. And the other with 22 listings but only 62 reviews.
A further 3 Superhosts between 30 and 50, one with 12 reviews, one with 24 reviews and the last one with 5 homes and a few hundred reviews.
Apart from the new listings (and most of them were pros anyway) there were probaly 9 regular hosts in the top 50, with a bit of experience and quite a few decent reviews behind them
@Gerry-And-Rashid0 @Susan17 Susan, as always, I learn so much from your posts. Interesting to see hard facts that support my long-held intuitive hunches (which is why I wrote a post here nearly a year ago entitled 'Are Traditional Hosts No Longer Valued By Airbnb?') I myself made other arrangements for consistent and steady income while still selling out my rental on Airbnb (non-stop bookings since I listed May 2017) - I simply cannot put my trust (and my livlihood) in a company that seems to revel in manipulating it's hosts via false data and scare tactics (such as the one described in the original post here); not to mention the constant changes to the platform and to policies and procedures that rarely benefit the host.
Some here may still sail out into those deep blue waters, moving toward the siren's song (the lure of Airbnb Plus, Experiences, etc, etc, etc as hosts do all they can to keep their businesses not just afloat, but profitable). However, being familiar with old sailing lore, I figured out a long time ago what happens next. And chose to go the other way. Fast.
@Rebecca181 (Oregon) and @Rebecca0 (Becky)
Firstly, apologies for the slow response, I just stumbled across this thread again when I was searching for something else. I'm not receiving notifications at all for any posts I'm tagged in now, Rebecca. Are you still the same?
Secondly, thank you both so much for the lovely comments, and the vote of confidence. Absolutely made my day to hear from both of you. This CC can be a bit of a cold and lonely place at times, especially when you're saying things that people really don't want to hear! Sadly, I still haven't learned how to Win Friends and Influence People, Becky! But a girl's gotta say, what a girl's gotta say.. 😉
The book is coming along nicely thanks. I was a bit overwhelmed at the thoughts of taking on such a huge project at first - I have tons of stuff saved over the years, but I have zero organisational skills, so it was a mammoth task to dig it all up from the hundred different places I'd saved it, and then trying to collate it in any sort of a coherent fashion. The factual side of the book is the easy part, but they want me to interweave it with my own story, and my own experiences, which, being a private person, I wasn't too thrilled about, and find quite challenging. But I'm getting there 🙂
Thanks again to both of you for your kind words. Cheered me up no end! :))
You may have come across it but, this site has some interesting Airbnb statistics.
https://ipropertymanagement.com/airbnb-statistics/
If you haven't seen this, you might find it useful.
I find it strange that you can't get a booking Susan, so I just had a look at your listings and gee your bookings sure have slumped and yet your properties are absolutely wonderful! There surely are not more visually desirable properties in Dublin.
So, I did an incognito search, and you do have good visibility.
Using broad filters of just available Feb dates and 4 guests only and your Chic 2 listing is showing at 13 out of 44 available properties and your Chic 4Br listing is showing up at 25 out of 44....so you are not being buried as far as visibility is concerned. One listing is on the first map page and the other on the second!
You do not appear to be listing on other sites because your calendar is showing as being fully open to all future Airbnb enquiry dates, so I guess you don't have another platform to compare with.
Do you have contact with other hosts in Dublin to see what their experience has been?
I have noticed a slump in Airbnb bookings this past month but, I have put that down to the fact that I do have a reasonably heavily booked calendar until May and although my views are constant, the opportunity is not there to book over the short term so they are going elsewhere.
The other thing is, that payout fiasco we had here in Oz forced me to ghost my listing to Homeaway/Stayz and I have picked up 6 reservations on that site. I am picking them up at the rate of one a week and this is having an effect on my Airbnb availability. This lot sure know how to hurt their successful revenue base!
Cheers.....Rob
Thanks for taking the time to do that for me Rob, much appreciated. 🙂
There's a multitude of "property management" sites out there like the one you linked to, all quoting the same regurgitated statistics, most of which originate from Airbnb's publicity machine anyway. Also, you see the same dubious stats appearing again and again throughout mainstream and social media, and you start to realise that even the specialist publications aren't doing their homework- they're simply trotting out whatever tired old lines they're fed, without questioning. Lazy journalism, at its worst. It astounds me, tbh. I guess investigative reporting must be a thing of the past.
For 3 years now, I have repeatedly challenged Airbnb managers, country managers, directors and even global heads - face to face - about the credibility of the stats they routinely use in their PR Charm Offensives around the world. I've pointed out - many times - that until the company stops taking local governments - and residents - for fools by trying to palm them off with "facts" and "figures" that a 5 year old could see don't add up, and start providing the real data lawmakers and policymakers have been trying, without success, to extract from them for years (ie a clear breakdown of the regular host vs professional operator figures on the site), then Airbnb itself is every bit as much a threat to the survival of homesharers and small, entire home hosts, as any government clampdowns or draconian regulations could ever be.
I've watched - and lived - this Airbnb story playing out here in Dublin from the very beginning Rob. From when 99% of people had never even heard of them, to when they were (briefly) celebrated in the media for opening their non-US HQ and creating 500 jobs here (no mention of the fact that they were also benefitting to the tune of billions, courtesy of our shameful tax loopholes that allow mega rich, mega powerful global corporations to avoid paying a cent of their rightful tax burdens, by funnelling their non-US business through Dublin), and right up to the present day, when you'd rather tell someone you're an internet pornstar, than publicly admit to being one of those Airbnb pariahs, whose selfish actions are massively exacerbating the homeless crisis.
Sadly, that's the reality of how deeply unpopular - hated almost - Airbnb, and by extension, Airbnb hosts, have become here. And our situation is simply mirroring a phenomenon that's spreading like wildfire in cities across the planet. Airbnb is anything but welcome in an ever-increasing number of cities, and that same vehement anti-Airbnb sentiment is starting to be felt now in smaller towns and cities too, like ripples on a pond.
Make no mistake - Airbnb's arrogance and blatant lack of respect for the cities in which it seeks to operate - typified by their absolute refusal to provide local authorities with the data they require in order to adequately assess the true impact on their cities, coupled with the company's apparent misconception that Airbnb is above the laws that apply to everyone else - is the number one factor in their increasingly dismal outcomes in regulatory battles in every corner of the globe. (The number 2 factor being the rampant, unchecked anti-social behaviour and neighbourhood disruption of unmonitored Airbnb guests -invariably guests of "professional" property management companies, cowboy operators and absentee hosts - who couldn't give a sh*t what their guests are getting up to, as long as the wonga keeps rolling in)
The millenial tech bros got it badly wrong with their presumptuous, entitled "Belong Anywhere" ideology. Well no, actually, it doesn't work like that. You have to prove your worth and earn the right to be accepted and to "belong" in any established community. "Belonging" is not an automatic privilege.
You can't expect to just rock up to a party in someone else's manor, invite yourself in, start throwing your weight around and acting like you own the place and have a god-given right to be there, dangerously overcrowd the venue by surreptitiously slipping hordes of troublesome, disruptive interrlopers in through the back door, lie through your teeth about who and how many you've sneaked in, then start disrespecting and abusing the very doormen who hold all the power to decide whether you're allowed stay at the party, or whether your arse is getting slung out the door.
That's never gonna end well. And Airbnb needs to learn a thing or two about being respectful and earning the right to "belong" in other people's communities, and other peoples neighbourhoods. Providing the gatekeepers with the information they require would be a good - and smart - place to start.
@Susan17 I'm so glad you found cheer in the posts. As I said, you have always been a forthright voice and one of reason so I can't think of anyone better to scrutinise things from a host perspective. You ask how things are going in Edinburgh.... honestly, it feels like this wonderful city is slowly but surely being turned into a theme park. It's depressing, to say the least. Tourism is big business, of course, and always has been here but it's taken a sinister turn in my opinion. In many ways, though, it's just like it ever was: wealthy people spotting opportunities to make even more money with no real regard for the people who actually live here. Yes, there are STR rental restrictions being put in place but it will most likely only affect the small fry. The greediest and wealthiest always look after their own, right? I'm hanging on with my own airbnb but it's slim pickings these days. The number of weird and desperate enquiries has been notable, I guess because people are desperate to get here before Brexit f**ks everything up for sure? Who knows. One thing is for sure: the rich will get richer and the poor can go whistle.
@Susan17 Still here and still rooting for you and cheering you on - And dreadfully excited to know that you may one day be able to hand me that shiny new book in person!
Hi
I have had loads of views but no hits ...
Have to agree that AirBnB bookings are slightly down at the moment
But
BDC have had a massive increase and getting bookings for June now.
Definately worth while to have 2 platforms with synchronised calenders