Hi all,Fairly new to hosting and could use help on how to co...
Hi all,Fairly new to hosting and could use help on how to communicate to a guest that was not the person booking the reservat...
Dear All,
I am Kellan, and I am a traveller. I am very new on this community.
I am currently a researcher who investigate sharing economy, particularly solutions for both host and service providers will consider to increase their benefits.
At the moments, I am looking at the phenomenon "host's rejection". I have a number of your discussions on this community, and get some idea in mind. However, it would be great I can officially start a thread and we can discuss in one place.
Could you please share with me your concerns regarding some questions below?
1. What makes you reject a potential guest? Please share any potential causes.
2. Which is the most important reason for you to reject a guest?
3. How often will you reject a guest?
4. When will you reject the guest? Is there any possibility to reject a guest after you accepting them, and what reason for that?
5. Can you estimate your rejection rate, possibly per week/ per month?
6. Do you think the sharing service provider's policy can decrease the rejection ?
7. Could you please share any ideas you think it would be help all service providers, host and rejected guest?
All ideas are respected and helpful in this discussion.
I would like to say thank you for all you stop here, read the post and leave some comments.
Wish we all Airbnb, host and guest can co-create the best values for us.
Best,
Kellan.
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Hello, not sure if you are still collecting data for this, but as the thread is still going, here are my answers:
1. What makes you reject a potential guest? Please share any potential causes.
- They want to bring children, even though my listing states no under 18s. This is a frequent request.
- The booking guest is actually under 18. They shouldn't officially even have their own profile, but sometimes they do.
- They want to bring a pet. This is a rare request, but occasionally happens.
- They have really misunderstood what they are booking, e.g. they think they are getting the whole house (or an apartment) not a room in my home. Sometimes they just think they are getting a private bathroom but the bathrooms are actually shared.
- They have not read that I have cats and they are allergic.
- They do not respond to my questions witin the 24 hour period a host has to accept/reject.
Incidentally, most guests will cancel their request once you explain, so you don't necessarily have to 'reject' them.
2. Which is the most important reason for you to reject a guest?
- Wanting to bring children is probably the most common reason why I have to reject a booking. Some guests will try to persuade me their child is wonderful and I should let them stay, but that is not the point. I will not budge on this one!
The next most common reason (but not the most important) is guests not responding to quesitons in time. In these cases, I tell them if they send another request including the requested information, then I will accept it.
3. How often will you reject a guest?
Hard to say. Maybe once a month or less.
4. When will you reject the guest? Is there any possibility to reject a guest after you accepting them, and what reason for that?
I always ask them to confirm they have read the listing and agree to the house rules before I will accept a guest's request. I ask them questions if there is something I am unsure about, or for more information if they haven't sent any in the first place. This means that potential problems are usually brought up BEFORE booking.
For instant booking guests, my welcome message asks them to respond to a short set of questions, which includes confirming they've read the listing/agree to the rules.
I've only once cancelled after a guest booked (it was an instant booking). This was due to several factors. If it had only been one, perhaps I would not have cancelled, but combined, they really worried me. They included: guest booked 2 nights, but wanted to stay for 5, then 6. Kept booking for less nights/people than needed. Asked for a discount. Kept ignoring my check in/check out times. Was slow to respond and had to be asked questions over and over again.
I also once asked a guest to cancel her reservation herself, but it was an extreme case that involved a break up and a suicide attempt. I did not want to risk such a thing happening in my home!
5. Can you estimate your rejection rate, possibly per week/ per month?
Hard to say. Not more than once a month on average.
6. Do you think the sharing service provider's policy can decrease the rejection ?
Yes, the main thing is better education for guests so they understand the importance of 1. Completing their profiles. 2. Communicating with hosts. Some attempt has been made to do this, but there needs to be more.
I think it should be compulsory for guests to complete their profiles before they can send a booking request/enquiry, i.e. they have to write a description, add a photo.
There should also be a short form when sending a request, where they have to fill in fields for the most common host questions, e.g. Who are you travelling with? What is the purpose of your visit? You have this in part with IB, but even then, guests don't answer all the required questions. It should be compulsory in order to make the booking.
In fact, if someone is booking for two or more people, I think it should be compulsory that they fill in the names of the other guests.
7. Could you please share any ideas you think it would be help all service providers, host and rejected guest?
See above.
Also, I think hosts should respond to requests within 24 hours, BUT should have 48 hours before accepting/declining as not all guests respond to questions in time. OR, the host has to respond to the guest within 24 hours, but if they have questions, the guest then must respond within 24 hours to those. I think either of these would greatly reduce rejections.
Hi @Cormac0,
Many thanks for your sharings,
As your post, you would reject a guest based on
1. Guest's inappropriate ID photo,
2. Guest whose request against host's listing guidelines.
Can I say guest's ID photo is the most important reason for you?
Would you mind if you share with me your reject rate for unqualified guest please?
Wish you all the best with your business.
Best,
Kellan.
I don't like rejecting guest as I said previously, Host have very little information to take a view on a guest other than Airbnb validation process which has been found wanting , I take a deem view of inapporiate photo or anthropomorphized images, I don't regards picture of dogs, cat, mountains, or streams etc as an ID photo and my sence is they have something to hide.
Having said the above I take each case on its merits.
"As your post, you would reject a guest based on..."
YES in both cases I did.
Regards
Cormac
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Hi @Cormac0,
You totally make a point. The photo gives the host very first impression about guest.
Thank you very much.
Best,
Kellan
Unfortunate repeat issues from guests from a particular part of the world that dont understand that an AirBNB is very different from a hotel. Their expectations are too high as are their requests for personal service, and their lack of respect for the home is astounding. I have never rejected one of these guests but my heart sinks when I their country of origin and I book extra hours with my cleaning staff.
I have had enquiries from people who want to arrive in the early hours of the morning, think I am somewhere I am not or that I offer facilities I do not. I have had enquiries for that night after I have gone to bed and I do not go to bed early.
Dear @David126,
It is really interesting.
So I guess the most annoying issue for you is the request in which the guest ask to arrive in a convenient time?
Best,
Kellan.
Until now reasons were:
we would decline their requests or cancel bookings also bc of:
I can't think of anything else at this moment
Warm greetings @Branka-and-Silvia0,
Thanks for your valuable information.
Let me rank them in the below order:
1. Third party booking
2. Children
3. Bad review
4. Breaking house rules
5. Inappropriate communication.
Is it right?
By the way, could you please explain more why children appear in this list? Do you mention this guideline in your listing and any age limitation for children as you mentioned?
Grateful,
Kellan.
@Kellan0 yes, it is not suitable for children and it is in our house rules. But sometimes we still get inquiries and requests from families with children and have to decline them.
Thank you for making me understand for this key point.
It is fair as long as we mention it in the host's guideline.
Best,
Kellan
@Kellan0I have been hosting eight months.
Read about Airbnb as I have never hosted an apt before.
Going through all the options, I picked abb.
I did not know what third party bookings were.
Being on instant booking for one month I learned about needy guests.And jerks.
Btw communication with the potential guest has to flow quickly and feel right
I ask them to read the listing before they book.
My minimum stay is 2 nights.
these are my rules.
No one wants their special experience ruined by loads of unnecessary rules. Which is why restrictions are kept to a minimum.
They are:"Photo ID must match the guest it is a rule from Airbnb's policy.
No parties. This is a beautiful, quiet part of the world, so please be respectful towards the neighbours and keep the noise down, especially between 10 pm and 7 am.
Pets are welcome, although we do ask you to ensure they don’t climb on the bed or other furniture with dirty paws. There’s a secure space in the porch area for them to sleep.
Please also respect the property and its contents. The owners are opening the doors of their property to people from around the world, and want as many as possible to enjoy its unique charm, so please take care around the apartment.
Our homes belong to us — not to Airbnb.
Please respect my neighbours , no loud music or parties or unknown overnight "GUESTS" or "Couch Surfers
Welcome you back @Bruce43,
Very useful information!
I assumed you have some experiences with [Instant booking].
What do you think about this function?
Is it helpful to increase the acceptance rate for potential guest?
Do you encounter any even worse rejection experience with Instant Booking mode?
Big thanks,
Kellan.
@Kellan0 I turned off instant booking because it wasn't what I wanted.my listing to be.its an apt with garden+BBQ+ in a small village and it takes two days to relax.And I have had guests come at 11 pm, so
the downside of IB is the caliber of guest. and Airbnb is really pushing instant booking.
I am in the market for young and older couples with or without children.I'm Over 70% booked for the summer. That is enough for me.
I need to relax too.
Again not everybody is the same.
Listings in urban areas are a different bowl of fish.
Hi @Bruce43,
You opened my eyes about this kind of Airbnb's strategy, namely Instant Booking.
Is there any difference between normal booking and instant booking for a host, I mean is it possible for a host can gain more benefit from an instant booking, i.e. higher profit rate than a normal booking's?
Many thanks, @Bruce43
Best,
Kellan.
@Kellan0 I'm not looking to increase my profit with instant booking.
Isn't contacting the host and getting a reply in person a whole lot better?
Everything doesn't have to be instant.
You can talk to a real host in a few minutes.
Sounds instant enough to me.
As I won't rent for less than two nights, it's a win-win
Airbnb is pushing instant booking.
Tried it don't like it!